On Saturday, July 18, 2015, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@...> wrote:

Jeremiah,

Of course it's a bit restrictive. Isn't that the point of a certification process and certification mark?

No. It should be about certifying a process that should be widely adopted with the fewest restrictions possible.

 

The sanctions, if necessary, would be most directly handled under normal trademark law. But I imagine that embellished or false claims of compliance would carry weight in any case law in which it were to be found that intellectual rights were inadvertently or deliberately violated. 

 

I think this is completely the wrong approach. The whole point of Free Software is real freedom from this sort of legalistic nonsense. The focus of Open Chain should be in adopting the best practices that exist in the community, not trying to set up some ISO regime that sues people over trademark. Seriously, Open Chain needs to consider policies much more inline with Debian's trademark policy, that will bring the process closer to FOSS practices and out of this maladaptive corporate sphere which really misses the point.

Cheers,

Jeremiah

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On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah.foster@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@...> wrote:

David,  I propose the following adjustments to your entry (shown here,
and also in the Etherpad)

SP5.5 Use of the OpenChain logo is limited to company level
designations intended for use in relation to organizations, not
products[NEEDS DISCUSSION...]

SP5.5.1 The OpenChain logo is not used until certification is met for
a given version of the specification

So companies going through certification can't use the logo or trademark? That seems a bit restrictive, especially during launch of the overall certification process when you really want to build brand awareness. Perhaps you have the Open Chain logo and you have a "Certified" logo for completing the ISO certification process.  

- e.g., "Company X is certified under OpenChain version 1.0"

SP5.5.2 The OpenChain logo is not used on in product marketing
communications packaging must be clearly associated with the
organization, not the product

I'm not sure this will work. What sort of sanctions do you propose might happen should one claim their "product" as "certified"? You'd have to have some kind of meaningful leverage.

Cheers,

Jeremiah 

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