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Reminder: OpenChain specification available for public comments
Mark Gisi
The final release candidate for the first version of the OpenChain specification is available for public comments on the OpenChain wiki at: https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/_media/openchain/openchainspec-2016-05-16-1.pdf
The public comments phase, which represents the last step in the release process, began last week and will remain open for 30 days closing on June 17th.
Please feel free to post comments about this current version by using one of the following methods: · to this mailing list; · at the next upcoming OpenChain Specification meeting on June 6th at 9am PST; or · to me at mark.gisi@... if you prefer to remain anonymous.
Thanks, - Mark
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Re: Curriculum next steps
Dave Marr
Shane please add me as a member of the curriculum work team.
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Thanks, Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: openchain-bounces@... [mailto:openchain-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Shane Martin Coughlan Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:51 PM To: openchain@... Subject: [OpenChain] Curriculum next steps Dear OpenChain project members Thank you to everyone who contributed to our last call and to many others who expressed interest in contributing to our curriculum work team. The specific proposals to launch the work team were: (1) We provide high level process management slides that can be adopted and expanded by any company seeking to undertake Open Source compliance; (2) We will create the first iteration of these slides in a three month (3 call) window, with most of the actual work happening offline; (3) We re-use existing material that is available (or can be made available) under a CC-0 license; (4) We keep things simple to make adoption, translation and understand as straightforward as possible. These proposals were accepted by the curriculum work team members present. What this means for the team is: (1) An initial version of the slides going online for editing next week; (2) The team working on the slides for the next month to prepare the first draft; (3) Review of the slides will take place on our second call to assess status and where we need to focus energy; (4) The subsequent month will apply focus to these points before resulting in our first deliverable for consideration in the third call. I will send an email next week with details of how we will collaborate online. Regards Shane _______________________________________________ OpenChain mailing list OpenChain@... https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/openchain
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Curriculum next steps
Shane Martin Coughlan <shane@...>
Dear OpenChain project members
Thank you to everyone who contributed to our last call and to many others who expressed interest in contributing to our curriculum work team. The specific proposals to launch the work team were: (1) We provide high level process management slides that can be adopted and expanded by any company seeking to undertake Open Source compliance; (2) We will create the first iteration of these slides in a three month (3 call) window, with most of the actual work happening offline; (3) We re-use existing material that is available (or can be made available) under a CC-0 license; (4) We keep things simple to make adoption, translation and understand as straightforward as possible. These proposals were accepted by the curriculum work team members present. What this means for the team is: (1) An initial version of the slides going online for editing next week; (2) The team working on the slides for the next month to prepare the first draft; (3) Review of the slides will take place on our second call to assess status and where we need to focus energy; (4) The subsequent month will apply focus to these points before resulting in our first deliverable for consideration in the third call. I will send an email next week with details of how we will collaborate online. Regards Shane
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/16
Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah.foster@...>
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Williams, Kelly <kellyw@...> wrote:
You bet! Thanks again Kelly, Jeremiah
Jeremiah C. Foster GENIVI COMMUNITY MANAGER Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18 Gothenburg, Sweden M: +46 (0)73 093 0506 
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/16
Kelly Williams
Hi Jeremiah,
Thanks for the feedback and good points to discuss on our next call on 6/6. Does that work for you?
Regards,
From: Jeremiah Foster [mailto:jeremiah.foster@...]
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Williams, Kelly <kellyw@...> wrote:
Thank you Kelly for the minutes and slides -- this is much appreciated.
My feedback;
1. I would like to hear something from OpenChain regarding vendor neutrality in the proposals section. I think it is implied somewhat, but I don't think it would hurt to make this explicit. By vendor neutrality I mean that no particular company, or particular company process, or even a particular community process, is considered the orthodoxy. This allows for greater balance of the "permissive" and "copyleft" dichotomy which I think is also mirrored in the "open source" and "free software" community. That dichotomy is confusing to many companies and ought to be ameliorated as much as it can be and I think neutrality and focus on pragmatic aspects of compliance will best serve those companies involved in open source and hopefully improve the number that are in compliance with all FOSS licenses.
2. I think there have been some important changes in compliance since OpenChain was founded that would be nice for OpenChain to address proactively, namely the community compliance process. This process, largely made public last year, is exemplified by sites like this one: http://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidepa2.html but not limited to this. Both the SFC and FSF have resources on community compliance that perhaps might be reused in some way perhaps.
Lastly, thanks everyone for the clear, and clearly communicated proposals. I think this is hugely important for widespread adoption.
Regards,
Jeremiah
-- Jeremiah C. Foster GENIVI COMMUNITY MANAGER
Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18
M: +46 (0)73 093 0506
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/16
Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah.foster@...>
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Williams, Kelly <kellyw@...> wrote:
Thank you Kelly for the minutes and slides -- this is much appreciated. My feedback; 1. I would like to hear something from OpenChain regarding vendor neutrality in the proposals section. I think it is implied somewhat, but I don't think it would hurt to make this explicit. By vendor neutrality I mean that no particular company, or particular company process, or even a particular community process, is considered the orthodoxy. This allows for greater balance of the "permissive" and "copyleft" dichotomy which I think is also mirrored in the "open source" and "free software" community. That dichotomy is confusing to many companies and ought to be ameliorated as much as it can be and I think neutrality and focus on pragmatic aspects of compliance will best serve those companies involved in open source and hopefully improve the number that are in compliance with all FOSS licenses. 2. I think there have been some important changes in compliance since OpenChain was founded that would be nice for OpenChain to address proactively, namely the community compliance process. This process, largely made public last year, is exemplified by sites like this one: http://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidepa2.html but not limited to this. Both the SFC and FSF have resources on community compliance that perhaps might be reused in some way perhaps. Lastly, thanks everyone for the clear, and clearly communicated proposals. I think this is hugely important for widespread adoption. Regards, Jeremiah
Jeremiah C. Foster GENIVI COMMUNITY MANAGER Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18 Gothenburg, Sweden M: +46 (0)73 093 0506 
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/16
Kelly Williams
Hi Everyone,
The presentation and minutes are posted on the wiki https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/openchain/minutes.
Let me know if I missed anything or if you have any questions.
Thanks! Kelly
From: openchain-bounces@... [mailto:openchain-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Williams, Kelly
Note: new time and phone bridge info
Hi Everyone,
Here is the agenda for Mon, 5/
· Domain name survey results · Curriculum · Specification
Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/katestewart Optional dial in number: 877-297-7470 Alternate number: 512-910-4433 No PIN needed
If you need to use a local phone number, please consult: https://www.uberconference.com/international for the specific country numbers.
1. Dial the local number based on your location. 2. Enter 512 910 4433, then #.
Regards, Kelly
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OpenChain Working Group (Third Monday of each month invite)
Dave Marr
Hi, in case some still have a calendar invite for a 9am PT meeting today, this is just a reminder that we are having our call at
5pm PT later today.
We will begin our discussion on the Curriculum topic led by Shane, followed by next steps on the Specification led by Mark.
As mentioned in the last call and minutes for that call, we will be alternating topics and times for a cadence to allow more global participation -- 1st week of the month will be at a EU/US time and the 3rd week of the month will be at a US/APAC time.
If you don't have a calendar invite to the new time/cadence please let Kelly or I know so we can get that to you!
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/16
Shane Martin Coughlan <shane@...>
Hi Catarina
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Agreed, we need to keep things clear and simple to ensure translation is as easy as possible. This is, after all, a global community! Regards Shane
On May 16, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Catharina Maracke <catharinamaracke@...> wrote:
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/16
Catharina Maracke
Dear Kelly,
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dear All, Unfortunately, I won’t be able to join today’s call but I look forward to the result of the discussions and the next steps. One thought I would like to bring up in the context of the curriculum discussion as well as the specification is the question of translation into other languages, e.g. Chinese (mandarin), Japanese and perhaps German/French. I would support the idea of translating the final version of the specification and also the future version of the curriculum. Perhaps we can keep this idea in mind when we start working on the curriculum and also further developing the specification. All best, Catharina
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OpenChain agenda 5/16
Kelly Williams
Note: new time and phone bridge info
Hi Everyone,
Here is the agenda for Mon, 5/2 at 5pm (PST):
· Domain name survey results · Curriculum · Specification
Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/katestewart Optional dial in number: 877-297-7470 Alternate number: 512-910-4433 No PIN needed
If you need to use a local phone number, please consult: https://www.uberconference.com/international for the specific country numbers.
1. Dial the local number based on your location. 2. Enter 512 910 4433, then #.
Regards, Kelly
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Invitation: OpenChain (Specification & Curriculum) @ Monthly from 7pm to 8pm on the third Monday (kstewart@linuxfoundation.org)
Kate Stewart
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Invitation: OpenChain (Specification & Certification ) @ Monthly from 11am to 12pm on the first Monday (kstewart@linuxfoundation.org)
Kate Stewart
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Invitation: OpenChain (Specification & Curriculum) @ Mon May 16, 2016 7pm - 8pm (kstewart@linuxfoundation.org)
Kate Stewart
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Canceled Event: OpenChain Working Group (First and Third Monday each month) @ Monthly from 12pm to 1pm on the first Monday from Mon May 4, 2015 to Mon Dec 3, 2018 (mdolan@linuxfoundation.org)
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Canceled Event: OpenChain Working Group (Third Monday of each month invite) @ Monthly from 12pm to 1pm on the third Monday from Mon May 18, 2015 to Mon Nov 19, 2018 (mdolan@linuxfoundation.org)
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/2
Kelly Williams
Hi Jeremiah,
Sure thing. I will add it to the upcoming meeting agenda.
Thanks,
From: openchain-bounces@... [mailto:openchain-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Shane Martin Coughlan <shane@...> wrote:
I wonder if I might add some items to that agenda? I have two items;
1. Is the intention of OpenChain to produce an ISO standard for open source license compliance? If I remember correctly, that was the original plan, but I don't see any mention of that on the current wiki. In the automotive industry, ISO standards are looked upon as useful and providing some reassurance around process.
2. What is the OpenChain relationship to and is there any overlap with the TODO group? http://todogroup.org/
Cheers,
Jeremiah
-- Jeremiah C. Foster GENIVI COMMUNITY MANAGER
Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18
M: +46 (0)73 093 0506
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Re: OpenChain Feedback Requested
Kelly Williams
Hi Everyone,
You may have received an error when you click on the survey link. It looks like it recognizes the mail list as a single voter. I’m working with Kate on getting the list of subscribers and will resend. My apologies for the confusion.
As background info, we mentioned on the previous call that we are transitioning from Working Group to Collab Project on the LF site. We would like input on the OpenChain domain name. Unfortunately, www.openchain.org is taken.
Thanks,
From: openchain-bounces@... [mailto:openchain-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of kellyw@... via surveymonkey.com
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OpenChain Feedback Requested
Kelly Williams
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Re: OpenChain agenda 5/2
Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah.foster@...>
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Shane Martin Coughlan <shane@...> wrote: Hi Dave I wonder if I might add some items to that agenda? I have two items; 1. Is the intention of OpenChain to produce an ISO standard for open source license compliance? If I remember correctly, that was the original plan, but I don't see any mention of that on the current wiki. In the automotive industry, ISO standards are looked upon as useful and providing some reassurance around process. 2. What is the OpenChain relationship to and is there any overlap with the TODO group? http://todogroup.org/ Cheers, Jeremiah
Jeremiah C. Foster GENIVI COMMUNITY MANAGER Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18 Gothenburg, Sweden M: +46 (0)73 093 0506 
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