materials from last meeting - open format


Claus-Peter Wiedemann
 

Hi Jeremiah,

 

Very well said. I’d love to work with open formats, too. But experience tells me that it is just not practical unless all of my peers would also switch. Interoperability is bad, really bad. It only works without glitches if you have plain text. Otherwise it is a nightmare and I just don’t have the time to tweak formatting all the time. BTW, for plain text, I’d prefer to use “vi” J

 

Just my (reality inspired) 2 cts.

 

Best regards

Claus-Peter

 

Von: openchain-bounces@... [mailto:openchain-bounces@...] Im Auftrag von Jeremiah Foster
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. November 2014 20:02
An: openchain@...
Betreff: Re: [OpenChain] materials from last meeting - open format

 

Many thanks Jilayne!

 

I appreciate the difficulty of changing document formats in the middle of negotiations and I wouldn't ask anyone to go through that. But I'm not going to give up here that easily. :-)

 

Firstly, at least in the cozy confines of our Linux Foundation lists, we should likely walk the walk and not just talk the talk. I think adding open document formats to our emails for those who live a completely free software lifestyle gives us a touch of credibility with the unwashed software developer masses. I say that in the most loving way possible as I count myself amongst them.

 

Secondly, there is a very strong connection between FOSS and privacy. Many FOSS developers are passionate security activists. As legal folks, I'm a wee bit surprised that you'd trust your data to an insecure platform. Especially knowing what we all know, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG

 

Now I'm sure that's not the response anyone wants to hear, but the reality is that we all operate in. Fortunately, there is a more secure alternative.

 

Cheers,

 

Jeremiah


On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, J Lovejoy <opensource@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I just uploaded an .odp and .odt version of Ibrahim’s slide deck and document from last call.  I checked the view and all looked the same in both formats as the originals that Ibrahim sent.


As to Jeremiah’s question re: why MS Office is so prevalent (in this population) - my view as to that is that it is sometimes not really a choice.  If you are a lawyer negotiating contracts, it’s possible that the lawyer on the other side has never heard of Libre or Open Office and the midst of a negotiation is not really the time to try and teach someone about MS alternatives or free software options. :)

Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but the reality that many of us (legal folks) operate in.

cheers,
Jilayne

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Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah.foster@...>
 

Many thanks Jilayne!

I appreciate the difficulty of changing document formats in the middle of negotiations and I wouldn't ask anyone to go through that. But I'm not going to give up here that easily. :-)

Firstly, at least in the cozy confines of our Linux Foundation lists, we should likely walk the walk and not just talk the talk. I think adding open document formats to our emails for those who live a completely free software lifestyle gives us a touch of credibility with the unwashed software developer masses. I say that in the most loving way possible as I count myself amongst them.

Secondly, there is a very strong connection between FOSS and privacy. Many FOSS developers are passionate security activists. As legal folks, I'm a wee bit surprised that you'd trust your data to an insecure platform. Especially knowing what we all know, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG

Now I'm sure that's not the response anyone wants to hear, but the reality is that we all operate in. Fortunately, there is a more secure alternative.

Cheers,

Jeremiah

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014, J Lovejoy <opensource@...> wrote:
Hi All,

I just uploaded an .odp and .odt version of Ibrahim’s slide deck and document from last call.  I checked the view and all looked the same in both formats as the originals that Ibrahim sent.

As to Jeremiah’s question re: why MS Office is so prevalent (in this population) - my view as to that is that it is sometimes not really a choice.  If you are a lawyer negotiating contracts, it’s possible that the lawyer on the other side has never heard of Libre or Open Office and the midst of a negotiation is not really the time to try and teach someone about MS alternatives or free software options. :)

Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but the reality that many of us (legal folks) operate in.

cheers,
Jilayne

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J Lovejoy
 

Hi All,

I just uploaded an .odp and .odt version of Ibrahim’s slide deck and document from last call. I checked the view and all looked the same in both formats as the originals that Ibrahim sent.

As to Jeremiah’s question re: why MS Office is so prevalent (in this population) - my view as to that is that it is sometimes not really a choice. If you are a lawyer negotiating contracts, it’s possible that the lawyer on the other side has never heard of Libre or Open Office and the midst of a negotiation is not really the time to try and teach someone about MS alternatives or free software options. :)

Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but the reality that many of us (legal folks) operate in.

cheers,
Jilayne